Oppo, I'm clearly smoking some crack/Random Thoughts

"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390) 02/09/2016 at 17:25 • Filed to: Random K-Roll

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Because I kinda want one. Even though it goes completely against what I’ve been saying and telling myself that I want in my next car that I’m planning on working towards in the next year that I put in my “car goals” list.

I told myself 6 specific things:

NO MORE 4-POTS. MOAR CYLINDERS

No Sub-3.0L motors

NO BOOST/NA BRO

RWD

Manual or good auto (good as in ZF 8-speed good)

AutoX bro

This SOB breaks 2 of the 4 requirements. And yet, I’m enticed by these sounds for some reason.... -_-

And I’ve driven one so I know what it’s capable of and then some. And yet, it’s just a damn conundrum. Probably because I’ve partially accepted that the V6 is probably a lost cause, but still....The hell K-Roll?? (O_o)

Zip-McBump > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:34

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I can’t say I’d ever be in the market for one (though that’s what I used to say about all Mustangs before I bought one), but I cannot fathom why these are not more popular. It’s the BRZ/FR-S formula with the power everyone said that particular car needed so badly.

djmt1 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:37

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6 bangers.

3.2l

N/A for days

RWD

Manual

Auto-it’s an M3-cross.

So I’ve met all your requirements (again, last time it was a B5 S4) so I look forward to hearing why this is a terrible idea because nothing makes sense Stateside.

Tripper > djmt1 02/09/2016 at 17:39

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Have to second this one!

Sam > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:40

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Or instead, you could just say screw everything and get one of these -

Because whioagdsnmgnoiruwehngolasdngoisahg that exhaust.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > djmt1 02/09/2016 at 17:40

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And that’s one I’d firmly say “hell no” to even if it was given to me. I’ve driven one of those and dammit I enjoyed the SMG but hell no. A friend has one as a DD in the 100k+ miles and he’s fortunate his dad is a mechanic. (O_o)

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Sam 02/09/2016 at 17:41

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Or no, because FWD, 4-pot, and tiny as hell. :p

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Zip-McBump 02/09/2016 at 17:42

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Except it isn’t the FT86 formula, because weight.

Sam > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:43

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How about this?

Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:44

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Tiny is good though

Needmoargarage > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:47

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These are actually a ton of fun to drive. I am more used to the 5.0L but every once in a while I hop in a 4 banger and love it. I don’t think you would be disappointed.

djmt1 > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:48

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As I said nothing makes sense Stateside. What do you guys do that causes German cars to just give up the go as much as they allegedly do?

Zip-McBump > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/09/2016 at 17:48

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If that’s all you’re concerned about, the Ecoboost Mustang has a better hp/curb weight ratio than the FT, because math.

FT - 2764 lbs, 200 hp = 13.82 lb/hp

Ecoboost - 3532 lbs, 310 hp = 11.39 lb/hp

wiffleballtony > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 17:50

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Y u no kyote?

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Dwhite - Powered by Caffeine, Daft Punk, and Corgis 02/09/2016 at 17:50

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Not that tiny. I know I can fit in just about any vehicle made, but that doesn’t mean I’d enjoy driving it.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Needmoargarage 02/09/2016 at 17:53

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I know they’re a ton of fun to drive. They just don’t “sound” a ton of fun to drive. I’ve heard them stock and they sound like vacuums, I’ve heard many aftermarket setups and they sound farty. I finally found a setup I like in muffler and resonator delete, but since I’ve owned nothing but 4 cylinder cars, I swore off another 4 cyl in the next car since I’ve always wanted a V8 DD eventually. But now I realize it would honestly be crazy and financially dumb to ever consider a V8 in a fun car. There’s no winning compromise and sturf.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > djmt1 02/09/2016 at 17:55

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Well, if I’m honest, SMG problems, ,some other random things, and he tried supercharging it once...That car has been through some hell. :-/

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Zip-McBump 02/09/2016 at 17:55

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That does not make it better to drive. By that logic, a pickup makes a better sports car than an NA Miata.

Vicente Esteve > djmt1 02/09/2016 at 17:55

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I also don’t get why European cars have such bad reliability in America. VW’s get a reputation for dependability in Europe whilst they are considered a joke in the US.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Sam 02/09/2016 at 17:56

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Still no.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > wiffleballtony 02/09/2016 at 17:57

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Because I can’t afford kyotes I want and to try would be financial dumbassery on my part. I have wants, but I don’t want to kill myself to get them. -_-

MultiplaOrgasms > Zip-McBump 02/09/2016 at 17:57

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Weight is still weight. A Rolls-Royce Wraith has a power-weight ratio of 8.64 lb/hp. By comparison the current Lotus Elise S (supercharged) has 9.29 lb/hp.

djmt1 > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 18:02

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None of us on this side do. Couple that to whole Americans cars are reliable revelation, I’m properly confused. The only logical conclusion I can come up with is that the Atlantic ocean has a mystical property that erodes car reliability during transit.

MultiplaOrgasms > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 18:03

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Oh, ten years ago VW had just as bad a reputation for reliability in Europe as it did in America.

Zip-McBump > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 02/09/2016 at 18:06

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Actually, that logic doesn’t lead to that apples-to-oranges conclusion at all. In my experience, people will defend what they like, often at the expense of logic and rationality. Frankly, I don’t care, as I’ve driven both cars, but own neither.

My initial point (and the only one salient to K-roll’s post) was that the Eco is an abundant, affordable, and quick RWD car that seems to check most of the Jalop boxes.

Milky > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 18:12

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K-Roll check yourself.

Vicente Esteve > djmt1 02/09/2016 at 18:13

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I think not being in Europe makes them throw a fit.

But seriously, the only explanation I have is that they are better maintained by their owners.

Steve in Manhattan > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 18:15

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I you don’t tell anyone you violated your criteria, no one will know. Except us.

Vicente Esteve > MultiplaOrgasms 02/09/2016 at 18:15

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Didn’t know about that, but I still think Europeans see VW being more reliable than Americans do.

MultiplaOrgasms > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 18:24

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Infrastructure and cultural differences might play a part in that as well.

bob and john > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 18:30

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3 of them broken*
4 pot
sub 3L
and boost

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Milky 02/09/2016 at 18:43

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I don’t understand

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Steve in Manhattan 02/09/2016 at 18:43

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Oh yes they will

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > bob and john 02/09/2016 at 18:43

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I KNOW (-__-)

bob and john > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 18:46

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also, euro car here are maintained by americans. So instead of actually fixxing the problem, they go and get a burrito from burritobarn and hope the problem goes away by itself.

Milky > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 19:01

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“ ... I can’t afford kyotes ...”

So thats a “new” V8 for a little more than a base ecoboost.

Textured Soy Protein > Milky 02/09/2016 at 19:07

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Having driven a “regular” GT, Performance Pack or GTFO.

Milky > Textured Soy Protein 02/09/2016 at 19:34

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Still has that V8 noise, thats all the performance I’d need.

Vicente Esteve > bob and john 02/09/2016 at 19:38

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In all seriousness, neglecting the car is the only explanation I can find to the difference in reliability.

bob and john > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 19:43

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there is another one (esp for VW)

a good chunk of the VW in the US are made in mexico. And i’m straight up doing to say it. they do NOT know to to screw a car together like the germans. not to mention their QC is much less stringent then the germans.

Vicente Esteve > bob and john 02/09/2016 at 19:55

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Mexican made VW owner here (mk7 Golf). I did think that they would screw up the quality of the MK7 Golf but I am pleasantly surprised when I drive it and it still hasn’t developed a single rattle after 20K kms. The interior feels amazingly solid, and not a single mechanical issue has come up. I know it’s very lightly used, but my mothers Expedition needed warranty work in the first month of ownership.

bob and john > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 19:59

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when we were buying our VAG product (A3 TDI) part of the reason tht made my dad swing audi wa sthat the audis are assembled in germany. where as the VW were mexican.

we have 200K kms on ours. 2 EGR vlavle cleanings and a emissions sensor. total of 500$ over 5 or 6 years.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Milky 02/09/2016 at 20:42

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Not for $400+ a month I can’t, hell no. And it’s red. No red Mustang. ;_;

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > Vicente Esteve 02/09/2016 at 20:52

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because yours are made in europe (at least i hope) and ours are made in america.

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 20:54

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odd, i far more enjoy the tiny cars that are basically glorified gokarts with suspensions than what most call “real cars” but hey, thats just me lol.

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 20:55

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just tame a 991

Textured Soy Protein > Milky 02/09/2016 at 21:24

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Well sure it goes fast and makes the right noises, it’s just a little soft and cruiser-y for my taste without the PP.

Milky > Textured Soy Protein 02/09/2016 at 22:02

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Driving in Michigan be like:

Big Bubba Ray > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/09/2016 at 22:42

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I KNEW YOU’D COME AROUND K-ROLL! I remember having a friendly debate with you about the ecoboost Mustangs when they were first announced! haha

Even one of my friends who is a diehard V8 man has come to accept and love the 4 pot Mustangs. And he’s only owned V8 cars in the past/currently. He had a 89 Fox for his first car, a 83 Capri, a 99 Cobra and now an 03 Cobra. He’s seriously considering trading in his 03 Cobra and his motorcycle to snag an ecoboost Mustang.

K-Roll-PorscheTamer > Big Bubba Ray 02/09/2016 at 22:59

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But I’ve driven 3 V8 cars and still never owned a V8....At least your friend has had at least one. -_-

But I’m coming to terms that my idea of a V8 DD Mustang may never come true after all, it’s an unhappy compromise on sound, displacement, port injection instead of annoying ticking DI, and cylinder count...Why does being rational and smart have to be so damn depressing :(

Also, where’ve you been? I haven’t seen you on here in a while.

Vicente Esteve > bob and john 02/09/2016 at 22:59

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Nice. My father bought my sister a Jetta in 2011, and that has had a couple things under warranty work but nothing really major.

Vicente Esteve > Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud 02/09/2016 at 23:00

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If you mean the Golf, it is made in Mexico.

Textured Soy Protein > Milky 02/10/2016 at 00:28

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LOL at Belle Isle

Milky > Textured Soy Protein 02/10/2016 at 09:12

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That one was hard to get if you dont know, well done.

For years I hated every top gear review on an american cars because our cars were always “soft”. Well shit, have you seen the roads Metro Detroit engineers test/live on?!

Nimbus The Legend - Riding on air like a cloud > Vicente Esteve 02/10/2016 at 12:33

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sorry, north/central america lol

Big Bubba Ray > K-Roll-PorscheTamer 02/10/2016 at 13:02

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You’ll own a V8 at some point in your life, I know it. And you’ve come this far in accepting the ecoboost Mustang so I’m sure you’ll grow to appreciate it even more!

I’ve been really absent over the past...shoot maybe 8(?) months because of working more than full time, picking up new positions and going to school as well. Combine that with the fact that Oppo just isn’t what it used to be and, I don’t find myself around here too often anymore.